Come riconoscere una Stratocaster

[kill kerensky 33]

 Ciao raga

Ho la possibilità di acquistare una Stratocaster a un ottimo prezzo.  Non capisco però se é una american serie del 2004 o una 50th anniversary visto che a quanto ne so entrambe hanno la placca col logo dellanniversario.  Dal seriale si capisce? Le anniversary sono solo 2 colour sunburst o anche 3? Altri consigli? 

[Uilliman Coscine Terzo 5796]

Nel dubbio non si compra come dice Bonamassa

[kill kerensky 33]

No ma la comprerei comunque é per capire il prezzo 

[winslow leach 324]

ovvio che le riconosci dal seriale, se è americana del 2004 dovrebbe a tentoni iniziare per Z3 o Z4 con successive 5 o 6 cifre

 

[winslow leach 324]

cosi per completezza copio incollo ! 

 

DATING CHARTS

The chart below details Fender serial number schemes used from 1950 to 1964. Notice that there is quite a bit of overlap in numbers and years. The only way to try to narrow the date range of your specific instrument is to remove the neck and check the butt end of the neck heel for a production date, which may be stamped or written there (if you’re uncomfortable doing this yourself, please refer to an experienced professional guitar tech in your area).
 

SERIAL NUMBERS	PRODUCTION DATES
Up to 6,000	1950 to 1954
Up to 10,000	1954 to 1956
10,000s	1955 to 1956
10,000s to 20,000s	1957
20,000s to 30,000s	1958
30,000s to 40,000s	1959
40,000s to 50,000s	1960
50,000s to 70,000s	1961
60,000s to 90,000s	1962
80,000s to 90,000s	1963
90,000s up to L10,000s	1963
L10,000s up to L20,000s	1963
L20,000s up to L50,000s	1964

Fender was sold to CBS in January 1965. Serial numbering didn’t change immediately because instruments continued to be made using existing, tooling, parts and serial number schemes. The chart below details Fender serial number schemes used from 1965 to 1976. Notice that there is quite a bit of overlap in numbers and years.
 

SERIAL NUMBERS	PRODUCTION DATES
L50,000s up to L90,000s	1965
100,000s	1965
100,000s to 200,000s	1966 to 1967
200,000s	1968
200,000s to 300,000s	1969 to 1970
300,000s	1971 to 1972
300,000s to 500,000s	1973
400,000s to 500,000s	1974 to 1975
500,000s to 700,000s	1976

The charts below detail the most common Fender serial number schemes from 1976 to the present. Once again, there is quite a bit of overlap in numbers and years. The only way to try to narrow the date range of your specific instrument is to remove the neck and check the butt end of the neck heel for a production date, which may be stamped or written there (if you’re uncomfortable doing this yourself, please refer to an experienced professional guitar tech in your area). Serial numbers with an “S” prefix denote the 1970s (signifying a CBS attempt to use serial numbers to identify production years); an “E” prefix was introduced in 1979 to denote the 1980s. As seen in the overlap of numbers and years, even these references to actual production dates are rather loose.
 

SERIAL NUMBERS	PRODUCTION DATES
76 + 5 digits S6 + 5 digits	1976
S7 + 5 digits S8 + 5 digits	1977
S7 + 5 digits S8 + 5 digits S9 + 5 digits	1978
S9 + 5 digits E0 + 5 digits	1979
S9 + 5 digits E0 + 5 digits E1 + 5 digits	1980
S9 + 5 digits E0 + 5 digits E1 + 5 digits	1981

1982 saw the introduction of the U.S. Vintage Series instruments and “V”-prefix serial numbers. The only way to definitively date U.S. instruments with “V”-prefix serial numbers is to remove the neck and check the butt end of the neck heel for a production date, which may be stamped or written there.
 

SERIAL NUMBERS	PRODUCTION DATES
EI + 5 digits E2 + 5 digits E3 + 5 digits V + 4, 5 or 6 digits (U.S. Vintage Series except ’52 Telecaster)	1982 (For U.S. Vintage Series, check neck date for specific year)
E2 + 5 digits E3 + 5 digits V + 4, 5 or 6 digits (U.S. Vintage Series except ’52 Telecaster)	1983 (For U.S. Vintage Series, check neck date for specific year)
E3 + 5 digits E4 + 5 digits V + 4, 5 or 6 digits (U.S. Vintage Series except ’52 Telecaster)	1984 (For U.S. Vintage Series, check neck date for specific year)

CBS sold Fender in March 1985. Serial numbering didn’t change because instruments continued to be made using existing tooling, parts and serial number schemes.
 

SERIAL NUMBERS	PRODUCTION DATES
E3 + 5 digits E4 + 5 digits V + 4, 5 or 6 digits (U.S. Vintage Series except ’52 Telecaster)	1985 (For U.S. Vintage Series, check neck date for specific year)
V + 4, 5 or 6 digits (U.S. Vintage Series except ’52 Telecaster)	1986 (For U.S. Vintage Series, check neck date for specific year)
E4 + 5 digits V + 4, 5 or 6 digits (U.S. Vintage Series except ’52 Telecaster)	1987 (For U.S. Vintage Series, check neck date for specific year)
E4 + 5 digits E8 + 5 digits V + 4, 5 or 6 digits (U.S. Vintage Series except ’52 Telecaster)	1988 (For U.S. Vintage Series, check neck date for specific year)
E8 + 5 digits E9 + 5 digits V + 5 or 6 digits (U.S. Vintage Series except ’52 Telecaster)	1989 (For U.S. Vintage Series, check neck date for specific year)

“N”-prefix serial numbers denoting the 1990s were introduced in 1990. The numbers and decals were produced far in advance, and some N9 decals (denoting 1999) were inadvertently affixed to some instruments in 1990. Consequently, some 1990 guitars bear 1999 “N9” serial numbers.
 

SERIAL NUMBERS	PRODUCTION DATES
E9 + 5 digits N9 + 5 digits N0 + 5 digits V + 5 or 6 digits (U.S. Vintage Series except ’52 Telecaster)	1990 (For U.S. Vintage Series, check neck date for specific year)
N0 + 5 digits N1 + 5 or 6 digits V + 5 or 6 v (U.S. Vintage Series except ’52 Telecaster)	1991
N1 + 5 or 6 digits N2 + 5 or 6 digits V + 5 or 6 digits (U.S. Vintage Series except ’52 Telecaster)	1992
N2 + 5 or 6 digits N3 + 5 or 6 digits V + 5 or 6 digits (U.S. Vintage Series except ’52 Telecaster)	1993
N3 + 5 or 6 digits N4 + 5 or 6 digits V + 5 or 6 digits (U.S. Vintage Series except ’52 Telecaster)	1994
N4 + 5 or 6 digits N5 + 5 or 6 digits V + 5 or 6 digits (U.S. Vintage Series except ’52 Telecaster)	1995
N5 + 5 or 6 digits N6 + 5 or 6 digits V + 5 or 6 digits (U.S. Vintage Series except ’52 Telecaster)	1996
N6 + 6 or 6 digits N7 + 5 or 6 digits V + 5 or 6 v (U.S. Vintage Series except ’52 Telecaster)	1997
N7 + 5 or 6 digits N8 + 5 or 6 digits V + 5 or 6 digits (American Vintage Series)	1998
N8 + 5 or 6 DIGITS N9 + 5 or 6 digits V + 5 or 6 digits (American Vintage Series except ’52 Telecaster)	1999 1999

“Z”-prefix serial numbers denoting the new millennium appeared on U.S.-made instruments in 2000. Z0 denotes 2000; Z1 denotes 2001, etc. American Deluxe Series instruments use the same dating convention, but with the addition of a “D” in front of the “Z”; i.e., DZ1, DZ2, etc. As always, there is typically some number prefix overlap and carryover from year to year.
 

SERIAL NUMBERS	PRODUCTION DATES
N9 + 5 or 6 digits Z0 + 5 or 6 digits DZ0 + 5 or 6 digits (American Deluxe) V + 5 or 6 digits (American Vintage Series except ’52 Telecaster, which uses a five-digit number stamped into the bridge plate)	2000 (for American Vintage series, check neck date for specific year)
Z0 + 5 or 6 digits Z1 + 5 or 6 digits DZ1 + 5 or 6 digits (American Deluxe) V + 5 or 6 digits (American Vintage Series except ’52 Telecaster, which uses a five-digit number stamped into the bridge plate)	2001 (for American Vintage series, check neck date for specific year)
Z1 + 5 or 6 digits Z2 + 5 or 6 digits DZ2 + 5 or 6 digits (American Deluxe) V + 5 or 6 digits (American Vintage Series except ’52 Telecaster, which uses a five-digit number stamped into the bridge plate)	2002 (for American Vintage series, check neck date for specific year)
Z2 + 5 or 6 digits Z3 + 5 or 6 digits DZ3 + 5 or 6 digits (American Deluxe) V + 5 or 6 digits (American Vintage Series except ’52 Telecaster, which uses a five-digit number stamped into the bridge plate)	2003 (for American Vintage series, check neck date for specific year)
Z3 + 5 or 6 digits Z4 + 5 or 6 digits DZ4 + 5 or 6 digits (American Deluxe) V + 5 or 6 digits (American Vintage Series except ’52 Telecaster, which uses a five-digit number stamped into the bridge plate) XN4 + 4 digits	2004 (for American Vintage series, check neck date for specific year)
Z4 + 5 or 6 digits Z5 + 5 or 6 digits DZ5 + 5 or 6 digits (American Deluxe) V + 5 or 6 digits (American Vintage Series except ’52 Telecaster, which uses a five-digit number stamped into the bridge plate) XN5 + 4 digits	2005 (for American Vintage series, check neck date for specific year)
Z5 + 5 or 6 digits Z6 + 5 or 6 digits DZ6 + 5 or 6 digits (American Deluxe) V + 5 or 6 digits (American Vintage Series except ’52 Telecaster, which uses a five-digit number stamped into the bridge plate) XN6 + 4 digits	2006 (for American Vintage series, check neck date for specific year)
Z6 + 5 or 6 digits Z7 + 5 or 6 digits DZ7 + 5 or 6 digits (American Deluxe) V + 5 or 6 digits (American Vintage Series except ’52 Telecaster, which uses a five-digit number stamped into the bridge plate) XN7 + 4 digits	2007 (for American Vintage series, check neck date for specific year)
Z7 + 5 or 6 digits Z8 + 5 or 6 digits DZ8 + 5 or 6 digits (American Deluxe) V + 5 or 6 digits (American Vintage Series except ’52 Telecaster, which uses a five-digit number stamped into the bridge plate) XN8 + 4 digits	2008 (for American Vintage series, check neck date for specific year)
Z8 + 5 or 6 digits Z9 + 5 or 6 digits DZ9 + 5 or 6 digits (American Deluxe) V + 5 or 6 digits (American Vintage Series except ’52 Telecaster, which uses a five-digit number stamped into the bridge plate) XN9 + 4 digits	2009 (for American Vintage series, check neck date for specific year)

A new serial numbering scheme was adopted toward the end of 2009 using the number “10” as a prefix, followed by a space, followed by seven digits. The “10” prefix was designed to identify the first year of the second decade of the new millennium, and while it appears on the instrument decals, it was not captured in Fender’s operating system. Only the seven-digit suffixes were actually entered into the database. These serial numbers did not identify the country of origin in the body of the number. Instead, the instrument's country of origin appears on the decal on the back of the headstock, near the serial number.

This new numbering scheme was short-lived and was replaced only a few months later by an improved scheme that identifies an instrument’s country of origin and year of manufacture in the body of the serial number.

This new scheme uses the letters “US” as a prefix to designate an instrument made in the United States, followed by an eight-digit number. The first two digits of the number identify the year of manufacture, (10 for 2010, 11 for 2011, etc.). The following six digits are the unit identifier, although it should be noted that these final six numbers are not sequential and do not provide any other identification information about the instrument. This new scheme is now used on the majority of U.S.-made Fender instruments, with exceptions including the American Vintage series and certain special-run instruments.
 

SERIAL NUMBERS	PRODUCTION DATES
“10” prefix followed by a space and seven digits (late 2009 through March 2010) US10 + 6 digits (beginning in about March 2010) V + 5 or 6 digits (American Vintage Series except ’52 Telecaster, which uses a five-digit number stamped into the bridge plate)	2010 (for American Vintage series, check neck date for specific year)
US11 + 6 digits V + 5 or 6 digits (American Vintage Series except ’52 Telecaster, which uses a five-digit number stamped into the bridge plate)	2011 (for American Vintage series, check neck date for specific year)
US12 + 6 digits V + 5 or 6 digits (American Vintage Series except ’52 Telecaster, which uses a five-digit number stamped into the bridge plate)	2012 (for American Vintage series, check neck date for specific year)

The “odd” serial numbers on the chart below exist somewhat outside the more well-known Fender serial number schemes. If you have what you consider an odd serial number, it might appear here.
 

NUMBER	DESCRIPTION
AMXN + 6 digits	California Series electric guitars and basses; 1997 and 1998
DN + 6 digits	American Deluxe series instruments; 1998 and 1999
NC(XXXXXX)	Squier® Strat Bullets (dating unclear)
FN(XXXXXX)	U.S.-made guitars and basses destined for export market. Some may have stayed in the U.S. or found their way back (made to Standard Stratocaster specs; dating unclear)
I(XXXXXXX)	A limited number of these “I” series guitars were made in 1989 and 1990. They were made for the export market and have “Made in USA” stamped on the neck heel.
LE(XXXXXX)	Blonde Jazzmaster® and Jaguar® guitars with gold hardware made in 1994. Sold as a promotional three-piece set with a Blonde Deluxe Reverb® Amp
CN(XXXXXX) VN(XXXXXX)	Korean-made Fender/Squier guitars (dating unclear)
CA(XXXXX)	Gold Stratocaster; 1981, 1982 and 1983
CB(XXXXX)	Precision® Bass Special from 1981, CB(XXXXX) Gold Jazz® Bass from 1982
CC(XXXXX)	Walnut Stratocaster; 1981, 1982 and 1983
CE(XXXXX)	Precision Bass Special from 1981; Black and Gold Telecaster from 1981-1982
CD(XXXXX) CO(XXXXX)	Precision Bass Special (Walnut) from 1982
GO(XXXXX)	Precision Bass Special (Walnut) from 1982, Gold Stratocaster from 1982-1983
D(XXXXXX)	Jazz Bass from 1982
SE(XXXXXX) SN(XXXXXX) SZ(XXXXXX)	Signature Series Instruments SE8(XXXXX)-1988, SE9(XXXXX)-1989 SN0(XXXXX)-'90, SN1(XXXXX)-’90, SN2(XXXXX)-’92, etc. SZ0(XXXXX)-2000, SZ1(XXXXX)-2001, SZ2(XXXXX)-2002, etc.
3 digits of 500	35th Anniversary Strat from 1989-1990
G(XXXXXX)	“Strat” from about 1980, (Gold hardware, two-position rotary tone switch)
4 digits stamped on bridge plate	U.S. ’52 Vintage Telecaster 1982-1988 (Check neck date for specific year)
5 digits stamped on bridge plate	U.S. ’52 Vintage Telecaster 1988-present (Check neck date for specific year)
T(XXXXXX)	Tribute series instruments
C(XXXXXX)	Collectors Series
XN(XXXXX)	FSRs and ’52 Teles

[Giulio60 399]

13 ore fa, kill kerensky dice:

 Ciao raga

Ho la possibilità di acquistare una Stratocaster a un ottimo prezzo.  Non capisco però se é una american serie del 2004 o una 50th anniversary visto che a quanto ne so entrambe hanno la placca col logo dellanniversario.  Dal seriale si capisce? Le anniversary sono solo 2 colour sunburst o anche 3? Altri consigli? 

Scrivi una mail al service fender richiedendo il dat sheet di quella chitarra allegando una foto del seriale e della chitarra intera.

Ti risponderanno in poco tempo

[Bananas 1745]

La '54 style 50Th Anniversary del 2004 deve avere:

 

- manico acero 22 tasti medium jumbo (American Standard dell'epoca).

- corpo in frassino in due pezzi two tone sunburst.

- legni più selezionati e belli a vedersi con venature e tutto.

- battipenna 11 fori (American Standard) ma single ply però dello stesso spessore del triply (quindi più ciccione del vintage style '54 che peraltro ha 8 fori).

- pick up Custom shop '54

- ponte American Standard a due viti

- meccaniche Fender/Shaller sempre American Standard

- schermatura di fabbrica dello scasso con vernice conduttiva (non lo scasso rettangolone pro-hamburger ma quello a tre posti tipo vintage).

- placca 4 viti logo 50th

- custodia tweed con all'interno logo 50Th

- wiring American standard con Delta Tone

- all'epoca costava tra i 1500 e i 1700 Euro circa, a seconda del negoziante.

 

Questa era la versione Standard, poi c'è la Deluxe che ha le stesse caratteristiche con i normali upgrade delle Deluxe e mi pare pure l'hw dorato.

Se tutte originali sono ottime chitarre, ben rifinite, con caratteristiche davvero interessanti.

Mentre le American Standard del 2004 dovrebbero essere normali col solo logo commemorativo del 50Th sulla placca.

[kill kerensky 33]

Grazie mille una american  serie quanto vale usata? Sugli 800?

[Bananas 1745]

Nel 2004 mi pare si chiamassero ancora American Standard. Se è appunto solo un'American Standard, cioè corpo ontano, pu AS, scasso rettangolare, no schermatura, magari corpo in tre pezzi, ecc., con la sola placca del 50th, penso intorno ai 6/800 a seconda delle condizioni. Se invece è una '54 style con corpo in frassino e le caratteristiche nel post più sopra intorno ai 1000, mentre la Deluxe direi pure quella intorno ai 1/1100. Sì comunque mica sono un valutatore di ferri, quindi sono solo valori indicativi.

Aggiungo la mia minchiata: io valuterei comunque qualità e risonanza dei legni, tutto il resto si piuò sempre cambiare. In ogni caso prendi tutto con le pinze perchè non sono un super espertologo tuttologico.

[kill kerensky 33]

Grazie ancora domani ho modo di testarla